• Democrats get screwed by

    From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Denn on Sunday, August 04, 2024 19:58:00
    So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
    No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that circumvent v laws and the constitution.

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to HALIAN on Sunday, August 04, 2024 21:00:00
    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.
    But they have to be from different states technically. And be of
    particular ages.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to halian on Sunday, August 04, 2024 22:52:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: halian to Denn on Sun Aug 04 2024 07:58 pm

    No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that
    circumvent v laws and the constitution.

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.


    Voters had Kamala pushed on them, no primary no choice.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/THEGATEB to Denn on Monday, August 05, 2024 07:10:00
    Denn wrote to halian <=-

    Voters had Kamala pushed on them, no primary no choice.

    Just like Hilary was pushed on them.

    So just par for the course from the group that wants to "Save Democracy!"


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dr. What on Monday, August 05, 2024 07:36:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: Dr. What to Denn on Mon Aug 05 2024 07:10 am

    Voters had Kamala pushed on them, no primary no choice.

    Just like Hilary was pushed on them.

    So just par for the course from the group that wants to "Save Democracy!"


    They want free choice, but then they're OK with being duped by the're Elitist snobs.
    It's fun watching the snake eat its tail.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to halian on Monday, August 05, 2024 09:14:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: halian to Denn on Sun Aug 04 2024 07:58 pm

    So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
    No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that circumvent
    v laws and the constitution.

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

    Republicans always talk about the "good old days" and how they want to take America back to how it was in the mid-20th-century.


    None of them realize what they'd be giving up. The modern primary system started in 1984. A primary system existed prior to that, but as recently as 1968, candidates were selected that did not win the popular vote of the people. Hubert Humphrey won over Eugene McCarthy, Humphrey was not an announced candidate during the primaries.


    I guarantee that most people don't understand how the primary system works in this country.



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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Matthew Munson on Thursday, August 08, 2024 13:51:00
    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates f president and vice president are chosen.
    But they have to be from different states technically. And be of particular ages.

    You're not wrong! But it's silent about the candidature process specifically.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to DaiTengu on Thursday, August 08, 2024 13:53:00
    So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
    No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that circum
    v laws and the constitution.

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates president and vice president are chosen.

    Republicans always talk about the "good old days" and how they want to ta America back to how it was in the mid-20th-century.

    More like the mid-XIX c.... or earlier.

    -̹ƒlian

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to halian on Sunday, August 25, 2024 08:01:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: halian to Denn on Sun Aug 04 2024 07:58 pm

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

    Yeah, you'd think the democrats being screwed over by the process would be complaining about it, instead of republican pundits and self-proclaimed constitutionalists.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Monday, August 26, 2024 10:56:00
    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

    Yeah, you'd think the democrats being screwed over by the process would be complaining about it, instead of republican pundits and self-proclaimed constitutionalists.

    In all seriousness, I actually wouldn't expect many/any who were planning
    to vote for Biden to really complain or even care, even if there is
    something wrong with how it happened. All they care about is keeping the
    Bad Orange Man from being President again.

    Just like most MAGA Republicans don't care if Trump is guilty of any
    felonies or not. They just want him to be President again.


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 09:07:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to halian on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:01 am

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates
    for president and vice president are chosen.

    Unless I'm mistaken... (Article 12)

    The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

    -- the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate
    and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;

    and if no person have such majority, then from
    the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

    -- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 09:52:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon Aug 26 2024 10:56 am

    Just like most MAGA Republicans don't care if Trump is guilty of any felonies or not. They just want him to be President again.

    Here's the sad thing...

    1. Those "crimes" were NOT Federal. they were CIVIL. Bragg turned into Federal matters, which by definition, he has NO MERIT in prosicuting them. He's CIVIL not FEDERAL.

    2. How many others in NY have done the same thing and were NEVER taken to task? HE WAS MADE THE EXAMPLE. Why? Because he's RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. That's why hay don't go afer Joe Blow. He's "little fish", while bagging the whale, would look great on your resume.

    3. As they spend all this time and money on Trump, NYC is dying. Fuck the shitizens, let's go after a "bigger target". I'm from NY, and right now it's a SHITHOLE. All these ILLEGALS need to get DEPORTED.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to KnightMare on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 15:41:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: KnightMare to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 27 2024 09:07 am

    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to halian on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:01 am

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates
    for president and vice president are chosen.

    He's breaking news, alright.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to KnightMare on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 12:22:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: KnightMare to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 27 2024 09:07 am

    Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for
    president and vice president are chosen.

    Unless I'm mistaken... (Article 12)

    [... snip ...]

    That dictates how the President and Vice President are chosen. not how CANDIDATES are chosen.

    "Primaries" weren't the primary thing until about 1960. JFK had such overwhelming support with primary elections that he was able to get first ballot nomination at the convention. However in 1968, even though Eugene McCarthy won the most primary votes, Hubert Humphrey won the delegate count. Humphrey wasn't even on 17 of the primary ballots.

    after the clusterfuck that was the 1968 primary, the modern primary era of "binding primaries" began. However, this is not "law" but rather rules adhered to by each party on the state and national level.

    The DNC and the RNC are not government agencies. They can select whoever they want in any way they want as their candidate.

    "The Robot Rule" is what binds delegates to vote for the candidate they were elected to support via the primary. (at least for the Democrats)
    Rule 11(H): all delegates to the convention are "to vote for the
    presidential candidate whom they were elected to support for at least the
    first convention ballot, unless released in writing by the presidential
    candidate."

    I'm pretty sure that's why Biden posted a letter of withdrawl rather than just making a speech about it. (insert joke about Biden's inability to speak here)

    No laws are stopping a political party from organizing a Caber toss to pick their candidate.

    If members of the Democratic Party are upset with how Kamala Harris was chosen, they can express that displeasure in multiple ways, including voting for another candidate in the general election, by witholding donations (if they were planning on donating), letters, protests, etc.




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KNIGHTMARE on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 10:35:00
    3. As they spend all this time and money on Trump, NYC is dying. Fuck the shitizens, let's go after a "bigger target". I'm from NY, and right now it's a
    SHITHOLE. All these ILLEGALS need to get DEPORTED.

    Yes, this is the saddest part. Some have suggested that the Trump
    prosecutions are just a side-show to keep us distracted from other, more important things that are going on. This would have to be one of those
    more important things.


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to DaiTengu on Thursday, August 29, 2024 08:05:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: DaiTengu to KnightMare on Wed Aug 28 2024 12:22 pm

    I'm pretty sure that's why Biden posted a letter of withdrawl rather than just making a speech about it. (insert joke about Biden's inability to speak here)

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Dumas Walker on Thursday, August 29, 2024 08:13:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: Dumas Walker to KNIGHTMARE on Wed Aug 28 2024 10:35 am

    Yes, this is the saddest part. Some have suggested that the Trump prosecutions are just a side-show to keep us distracted from other, more important things that are going on. This would have to be one of those more important things.

    Wasteful grandstanding. At what cost? People are already sick and tired of the dog and pony show. We can all see right through it. He needs to continue in order to "show face" ro his cronies. Quite frankly, as long as Soros is taking in air to his lungs, the madness will continue. If someone needs to take a permanant dirt nap, it's that crusy corpse devil of a man.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to KnightMare on Thursday, August 29, 2024 17:12:00
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: KnightMare to Dumas Walker on Thu Aug 29 2024 08:13 am

    the dog and pony show. We can all see right through it. He needs to continue in order to "show face" ro his cronies. Quite frankly, as long as Soros is taking in air to his lungs, the madness will continue. If someone needs to take a permanant dirt nap, it's that crusy corpse devil of a man.

    biden might already be on his deathbed. i predict after the election he will pass away 'in his sleep'.

    people have shot video of a biden who is very very tall and they say he's a body double.
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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to DUMAS WALKER on Friday, August 30, 2024 15:47:00
    DUMAS WALKER wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    In all seriousness, I actually wouldn't expect many/any who were
    planning to vote for Biden to really complain or even care, even if
    there is something wrong with how it happened. All they care about is keeping the Bad Orange Man from being President again.

    Just like most MAGA Republicans don't care if Trump is guilty of any felonies or not. They just want him to be President again.
    I would love for a re-roll of the primaries where a different Republican and Democrat ran.
    Dean Phillips versus Ron DeSantis. That would be a race of two men with integrity than the other
    three people. (Trump/Harris/Biden).



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MATTHEW MUNSON on Saturday, August 31, 2024 09:56:00
    I would love for a re-roll of the primaries where a different Republican and Democrat ran.
    Dean Phillips versus Ron DeSantis. That would be a race of two men with integrity than the other
    three people. (Trump/Harris/Biden).

    I would also. Lots of Democrats were hoping for a re-roll with an open convention when Biden dropped out, but his turning around and endorsing Kamala sort of shot that in the foot.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, August 31, 2024 20:45:44
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sat Aug 31 2024 09:56 am

    I would love for a re-roll of the primaries where a different Republican and Democrat ran.
    Dean Phillips versus Ron DeSantis. That would be a race of two men with integrity than the other
    three people. (Trump/Harris/Biden).

    I would also. Lots of Democrats were hoping for a re-roll with an open convention when Biden dropped out, but his turning around and endorsing Kamala sort of shot that in the foot.

    Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody but the rabid democrats with tds? i swear someone is going around in a biden mask to keep up appearances. I'm sure after the election he will have 'passed in his sleep'.

    there's this video on instagram where this guy is showing off a mission impossible style latex mask and it looks very real if you have sunglasses on.
    that's what i think of when they show biden getting off a car and going
    into an air plane.

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  • From Denn@VERT to MRO on Thursday, September 12, 2024 12:29:39
    Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody?

    Nope, he does whatever the deepstate tells him to do.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Denn on Thursday, September 12, 2024 17:08:45
    Re: Democrats get screwed by
    By: Denn to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 12:29 pm

    Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody?

    Nope, he does whatever the deepstate tells him to do.

    The Lizard People that run the Deep State Illuminatus would never allow anyone to discover them.

    Therefore your version of "The Deep State" doesn't actually exist and is just your cowardice showing.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Friday, September 13, 2024 09:19:00
    Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody?

    Nope, he does whatever the deepstate tells him to do.

    In this case, I think he endorsed her out of spite after he was forced
    aside.


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